Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/29/2007 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 2 VOCATIONAL EDUC ACCOUNT TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 29 SAFE HAVEN FOR INFANTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 61 TAX CREDIT FOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO VOC ED TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 137 SENIOR FISHING/HUNTING/TRAPPING LICENSES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 137(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 2                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the vocational education account                                                                       
     and appropriations from that account; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MARK  NEUMAN, sponsor, explained that  HB 2 is                                                                   
a  way to  obtain  private  industry's money  for  vocational                                                                   
education.    He cited  problems  related  to No  Child  Left                                                                   
Behind  and  the  need  to  assure   credits  for  vocational                                                                   
education   classes.     He  related   statistics   regarding                                                                   
graduation rates  and the need  for skilled labor.   He noted                                                                   
support for the bill by AFL-CIO.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  asked who would control the  money that is                                                                   
put into this account.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REX  SHATTUCK,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  MARK  NEUMAN,  replied                                                                   
that the legislature  has total appropriation  of that money.                                                                   
Recommendations would be made  by the Department of Labor and                                                                   
Workforce  Development   (DLWD)  in  consultation   with  the                                                                   
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:09:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara wondered if  this bill would  divide the                                                                   
money going  to the general fund  instead of bringing  in new                                                                   
money.    Representative  Neuman   indicated  out  that  that                                                                   
information is in HB 61.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster pointed out  that a handout  from Carl                                                                   
Rose,  Executive  Director of  AASB,  states  that under  the                                                                   
current  foundation formula  20 percent  of school  education                                                                   
funds  are for  special education,  bilingual education,  and                                                                   
vocational  education.   In the  Bush, no money  is left  for                                                                   
vocational education.  He asked  if HB 2 might alleviate this                                                                   
problem.   Representative Neuman  agreed that that  situation                                                                   
happens.   This  bill  would allow  private  industry to  put                                                                   
money into vocational education.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze inquired what  percentage of kids  do not                                                                   
go on to  college.  Representative Neuman reported  that 47.3                                                                   
percent of  Alaska Natives  and 62.2  percent of other  races                                                                   
graduate high  school.  Overall, about  8 percent go  on to a                                                                   
4-year college program.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:13:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARL ROSE, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA ASSOCIATION  OF ALASKA                                                                   
SCHOOL  BOARDS, reported  on the  history of  the 20  percent                                                                   
block grant.   In 1999,  the 20 percent  block grant  was put                                                                   
into   place  to   share  the   responsibility  for   special                                                                   
education,  vocational  education, and  bilingual  education.                                                                   
Currently,  with the immigration  policy, those  requirements                                                                   
can't  be  met.    There is  no  money  left  for  vocational                                                                   
education.   He questioned,  "Don't  we want  to say what  we                                                                   
mean and  mean what we  say?"  If  vocational education  is a                                                                   
priority, there  should be an  account for it.   He testified                                                                   
in support of the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:15:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked how the money would be appropriated.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PAULA SCAVERA,  LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, DEPARTMENT  OF LABOR AND                                                                   
WORKFORCE  DEVELOPMENT,  explained that  the  bill creates  a                                                                   
special  account  in  the  general   fund.    The  funds  are                                                                   
appropriated by  the legislature  to the Department  of Labor                                                                   
for programs approved  by the Commissioner of  the Department                                                                   
of Education and Early Development.   Co-Chair Meyer wondered                                                                   
if the account  could be susceptible to being  swept into the                                                                   
CBR.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked  if the  Alaska  Workforce  Investment                                                                   
Board would develop  criteria for the programs.   Ms. Scavera                                                                   
replied that  there is  no criteria and  the board  serves to                                                                   
advise.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster  emphasized   how  important  training                                                                   
programs  are in his  district  for jobs that  are not  state                                                                   
jobs.  Less than 1 percent of  jobs in his district are state                                                                   
jobs  and require  training  which is  not  available in  the                                                                   
area.  Often workers are imported  from other areas to do the                                                                   
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas related how  workers in his  area were                                                                   
trained by unions  and then had no jobs to come  back to.  He                                                                   
requested  follow  up  after  training  is  completed.    Ms.                                                                   
Scavera  recalled  the  example   Representative  Thomas  was                                                                   
referring to.   She reported  that this  is a concern  of the                                                                   
new commissioner.   Representative  Thomas  added that  it is                                                                   
difficult to get hired without work experience.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:23:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked about  the Department  of Labor's                                                                   
role.  Representative Neuman repeated  that the Department of                                                                   
Labor  would work  in  consultation  with the  Department  of                                                                   
Education.   Representative  Kelly voiced  concern about  the                                                                   
Department of Labor's role.  Representative  Neuman addressed                                                                   
who  controls the  funds;  the Department  of  Labor has  the                                                                   
awareness and  flexibility to meet  the demands of  the state                                                                   
where  they   are  needed.     He  suggested  that   the  two                                                                   
departments  would  work  together.     Representative  Kelly                                                                   
voiced a  preference for it to  be handled in  the Department                                                                   
of  Education.   Representative  Neuman  explained  that  the                                                                   
needs of No  Child Left Behind  have to be met.   Grade level                                                                   
standards have to be met.  Representative  Kelly repeated his                                                                   
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze  thought that the Department  of Labor was                                                                   
the right  place for this account.   He wondered  what issues                                                                   
arose in the previous committee regarding this bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman  reported that over the  past two years                                                                   
there was some discussion about  structure.  He questioned if                                                                   
a board  was necessary.   He thought the commissioners  could                                                                   
do the job.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  recalled  a time  when  post-secondary                                                                   
level vocational training programs  were in the Department of                                                                   
Labor.   He  pointed out  the  advantage of  the fund  coming                                                                   
before the legislature to be appropriated.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:31:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara said  he is not  overly concerned  about                                                                   
where the money  goes because it goes into  the general fund.                                                                   
He  thought  the worry  about  the  language  was not  a  big                                                                   
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Crawford   related   his   experience   with                                                                   
apprentice training  programs for  construction workers.   He                                                                   
noted a problem with trained workers  not getting employment.                                                                   
Representative  Neuman  reported   how  helpful  the  applied                                                                   
sciences are.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster recalled  a survey of his district.  He                                                                   
pointed out how training has improved.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  MOVED to REPORT HB 2  out of committee                                                                   
with  individual  recommendations   and  accompanying  fiscal                                                                   
note.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB  2  was  REPORTED  out  of  Committee  with  a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation   and  with  zero   fiscal  note  #1   by  the                                                                   
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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